The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle

Indians always boast about how well Indians are doing in the US. How come Indians aren’t smart enough to make India do well, if Indians are really that smart?

Indians are only good at utilizing and consuming what others produce, but don’t produce anything themselves. They always wait for others to create prosperous and developed societies first. Then they migrate to those societies enmasse, in order to exploit the opportunities created by the people of that society.

Indians are only smart enough to prosper through what others initiate, but are unable to initiate anything themselves. Thats why India is a dirt poor shithole that is only good at producing immigrants who don’t want to live in their own country.

25% of India represents the top highest IQs, meaning India has more honor students than America has students. People here don’t even know what the word “average” means mathematically, it doesn’t mean most people. Economies change from time to time and don’t necessarily reflect intelligence, just look at places like Ukraine and Russia with bad economies.

Everybody knows that East Indians are smart, seriously, the smartest boy in the world Pranav Veera is East Indian with an IQ of 176 at only age 6

Even poor Indians without an education or good health like Ramanujan end up being the best mathematicians rivaling Euler and Gauss.

I looked up the Fields medalist (often regard as the Nobel prize of Mathematics) and didn’t see a single Indian or people of Indian heritage made to the list.  Enough said.

Hey “IndiansAreSmart” -

If you all really are so “smart”, then please stay in your own country—since your backward, primitive and highly unintelligent fellow countrymen (who are the absolute majority of India) need you far more than we do.

Otherwise you are an envious, mendacious hypocrite.

Would many of you non-Whites PLEASE STOP using this blog to take out your obsessive and envious self-hatred against us White Americans here.

This is our blog, and this is our home. Isn’t it enough that you all have virtually the rest of our country at your disposal to manipulate and exploit—cannot us real Americans and real Westerners have even a stinkin blog where we can be left alone.

@TrollDetector / disgusting racist

Why didn’t Europeans stay in their own country and instead come to America then? By your own reasoning all the European immigrants are all hypocrites, envious, and mendacious then right? History shows Europeans immigrated the most. By the way those people like Satyendra Nath Bose and Ramanujan were in India not America or any European country. History shows that people travel, migrate, and that economies change from time to time dummy. Economies don’t remain constant but are unsteady and ever-changing unlike what these foolish racists really believe. They’re so funny with their foolishness.

Prior to the British coming to India India had a much better economy that’s why Columbus was trying to travel to India. After the British fucked it up it’s terrible now and only starting to recover, but India’s economy is starting to grow faster now and recover. It’s only been in these short 400-years that the primitive unintelligent Europeans have been ruling, they were so primitive that the highest technology Anglo-Saxons and Nordics ever independently came up with was cave paintings so they traveled all over the world and raped, killed, and stole information from everyone else.

Whenever the environmental factors and socioeconomic factors are the same Indians perform better than the Chinese and European, why is this? The only way Europeans and Chinese can appear superior is by gaining an unfair environmental advantage. I understand that you’re foolish so you probably don’t even know that science or a control is. Gaining IQ data of different races in different countries, different education levels, different school systems, different environments, different socioeconomic backgrounds, etc…isn’t controlled data and therefore can be influenced by any number of factors or variables. Gaining IQ data of different races in the same country, same environment, same school system, etc…is more reliable and controlled. But I don’t expect that you would be able to understand this.

Studies have also shown that IQ and financial success have no correlation, “Being more intelligent does not confer any advantage along two of the three key dimensions of financial success (income, net worth and financial distress)” - Zagorsky

You didn’t refute any statement I made you just spread racist hatred, tell lies and feel bad the smartest boy in the world Pranav Veera is East Indian

Oh yeah without Indians you would still be using shitty Roman Numerals and have no concept of zero, and many mathematics, scientific, and engineering advancements would’ve never been made without those things alone. The Arab Al-Khwarizmi had to introduce numerals to world in his book “On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals”

Arabs, Chinese, Europeans, etc…all copied off from Indians as history shows, so many English words come from Sanskrit, the numeric system, the number zero, and many other things are directly copied

Oh yeah without Indians you would still be using shitty Roman Numerals and have no concept of zero, and many mathematics, scientific, and engineering advancements would’ve never been made without those things alone. The Arab Al-Khwarizmi had to introduce numerals to world in his book “On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals”

Idiot, that was when the “Indians” were still (largely unmixed) Indo-European Aryans, not the little brown people they are today (and why they are a disgusting third world country).

Buzz off you envious third world jerk.

Why didn’t Europeans stay in their own country and instead come to America then? By your own reasoning all the European immigrants are all hypocrites, envious, and mendacious then right? History shows Europeans immigrated the most. ...

No you arrogant twirp, America is a European-diaspora land—a country built and sustained by and for White Europeans—and especially Northern European Anglo-Celts.

How dare you put non-Whites in the same category! Non-Whites are here for one thing and one thing only - to exploit and manipulate off the backs of White Americans. You people cannot create anything with substance without a White man around and supervising it all, (just like it was British and American engineers that took those “intelligent” Arabs out of their Bedouin tents in the early seventies and built up mega-cities in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, and UAE for them)

This is why you all want to immigrate into White countries, cause no matter how (putitively) “smart” your comparatively small racial elites are (most of whom have Indo-Aryan blood), most of you all are really not that intelligent, on average, especially in India. That is why nearly all of India is rather backward and primitive.

Indians Aren’t That Intelligent (On Average)
http://www.vdare.com/rushton/070926_indians.htm

Oh yeah without Indians you would still be using shitty Roman Numerals and have no concept of zero, and many mathematics, scientific, and engineering advancements would’ve never been made without those things alone. The Arab Al-Khwarizmi had to introduce numerals to world in his book “On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals”

Amazing as well when you guys cite (supposed) non-White “brilliance” it is always from examples many, many centuries ago. ;}

I found some thing which is also between India and China.  This time it is not about IQ but about border issue.  Listen to this podcast:

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/podcasts/India_China_Border.mp3

Interesting stuff.

IndiansAreSmart,

You are typical and embarassing with the superficial desi arrogance and lack of depth and breadth of understanding. Kindly stop embarassing those of us who would like to be known as more modest and circumspect. Because of people like you our entire group is labelled as gabby, boastful, loud-mouthed underachievers. You obviously need to learn what the Han have invented, practical devices to the factor of 10x more than anything that came out of desi land. There is simply no argument. Hell we could not even build lasting structures, there is no Indian equivalent of the engineering feat that is the Great Wall. (The grandest Indian structures are either Mughal or British) I can’t think of any ancient solid (not abstract) Indian invention that is not a bogus Hindutva invention and is relevant to the modern world. (Note - be careful not to post bogus things like Chess, before verifying where it was actually invented) If you are a Hindu like me you would know that the Puranas teach that there are four oceans - one made of curd, another of ghee, one of sugary water and some other ridiculous condiment whose name I can’t recall.

Please go through the list -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

Lets move out of historical evidence. The empirical evidence suggest Chinese in exile do better than overseas Indians and have built countries like Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan. I am not even counting post-Chinese ethnicities like the Koreans and the Japanese. China’s space and defence program is much ahead of India (India hasn’t created a functioning tank or fighter plane after decades of ‘research’) and the Chinese win more medals (5 times more) in the math, physics olympiads and programming competitions. What other proof do you need to see the truth unless you are blind to it.

As far as anecdotal evidence goes, this is what Charles’ Darwin’s cousin Francis Galton(who knew Indians and Chinese well) had to say:

“The Hindoo cannot fulfil the required conditions nearly as well as the Chinaman, for he is inferior to him in strength, industry, aptitude for saving, business habits, and prolific power.”

On the Chinese he said:

“The Chinese emigrants possess an extraordinary instinct for political and social organization; they contrive to establish for themselves a police and internal government, and they give no trouble to their rulers so long as they are left to manage those matters by themselves. They are good-tempered, frugal, industrious, saving, commercially inclined, and extraordinarily prolific. “

Well you might still want to argue about other things but you know deep down in your desi heart that ‘good tempered’ and ‘industrious’ are not adjectives that can in general be used to describe desis. Even granted that the Indians are of similar intelligence as the Chinese, the other ‘soft factors’ are overwhelmingly against us. Instead of GABBING and BOASTING on the internet we must be pulling up our socks and working till our eyes bleed but alas, most Indians dream of a 9 to 5 GOVERNMENT JOB.

Idiot, that was when the “Indians” were still (largely unmixed) Indo-European Aryans, not the little brown people they are today (and why they are a disgusting third world country).

A simplicity of concept almost as stupid as the little brown people’s belief in “Out of India”.

If you fools want to get destroyed by me, then continue replying and I’ll easily embarrass you

@Drifter
“Field Medals” only existed since 1936 dumbass. Gauss, Euler, Archimedes, Newton, Ramanujan, and all the best mathematicians never received any field medals. None of the people who received a Field Medal rival Ramanujan or any of the best mathematicians, the only good mathematician on that list is Grothendieck, the rest besides Perelman simply made relatively small contributions to mathematics so far.

But given the intelligence of these posters I doubt any of you know who even Euler or Gauss is or what even mathematicians do. Most here probably didn’t even know that Newton was a mathematician lol…they probably saw on TV an apple falling and thought that was all Newton did lol, that’s the “common” intelligence.

BTW to the dumb Chinese talking about the “International Mathematical Olympiad” no real mathematician cares about that contest, you can ask one if you want. When people look at the history of mathematics the “International Mathematical Olympiad” is never mentioned. It’s a joke to mathematicians. Being able to solve mathematical problems that have already been solved in the past has nothing to do with being a mathematician. What mathematicians care about is contributions, finding new proofs, solving conjectures, new notations,theorems, formulas, results etc…not solving problems that have already been solved in the past. But that’s all Chinese can do, solve math problems that have already been solved since they have no creativity, mimic what’s already been done.

Every mathematician and historian knows that the Indians contributed much more to mathematics than the Chinese ever have.

“Euler and Ramanujan are mathematicians of the greatest importance in the history of constants (and of course in the history of Mathematics ...)” - E. W. Middlemast

“We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made” - Albert Einstein

“It is India that gave us the ingenious method of expressing all numbers by the means of ten symbols, each symbol receiving a value of position, as well as an absolute value; a profound and important idea which appears so simple to us now that we ignore its true merit” - Pierre Simon Laplace

@Kulak

What a fuckin idiot. DNA testing shows that Indians were mixed throughout history dumbass. Where’s your evidence that they were “unmixed” Indo-European Aryan in the past? Oh wait you have none, just embarrassingly wrong claims. I doubt that the best Indian mathematician Ramanujan was a “pure Aryan” being from Erode, Tamil Nadu, India. The word “Arya” or “Ariya” (in pali) was never defined as a physical race, it had only meant “Noble” or “Noble One” in Sanskrit and Pali texts.

If it’s genetic then what’s the reason that ancient Northern Europeans (who have relatively the same genetic make up as modern ones) didn’t have any writing systems, science, or mathematics? Ancient Greek writers made fun of Northern Europeans as pale barbarians. They were just cave people. That’s why Northern Europeans never like talking about history prior to the 1400s, because they have none.

@TrollDetector

That’s right, Europeans immigrated from Europe to non-European regions. Europeans just don’t want to stay in their own fuckin continent. They want to immigrate then tell other people you’re not allowed to immigrate, lol. Why would you move out of Europe if you wanted to only be among Europeans? There’s lots of European countries that have populations that are nearly 100% white, why not just get the fuck out and help bad economy all-white European countries like Ukraine out?

History shows us that Europeans wouldn’t be anywhere without Arabs, Indians, and the Chinese. So if you wanted to be independent of all cultures or whatever then go back to not having writing systems, mathematics, science or technology just like the ancient barbaric German tribes did. The only thing found in Nordic and Anglo-Saxon areas are cave paintings. In all those 20,000+ years that’s all the Northern Europeans ever came up with, it took the Aztecs only 200 years to build a civilization that rivaled Rome, but in 20,000 years the dumb North Europeans couldn’t do anything. Thank the Southern (less Aryan) Europeans for migrating upwards for you ungrateful Northerners.

Amazing as well when you guys cite (supposed) non-White “brilliance” it is always from examples many, many centuries ago. ;}

Yeah because Ramanujan, J.C. Bose, and Satyendra Nath Bose are from ancient times…oh wait they’re not.

You can go back to using Roman Numerals or Chinese numerals if you want. I wonder why all the great advancements in science, mathematics, and engineering only came about after the use of the Hindu numeral system and not prior…

@IndianCynic

Hey fool, the only one embarrassing yourself is you. I didn’t claim Indians were better engineers than the Chinese dumbass, so where did you get that idea from? Indians contributed more to science and mathematics than the Chinese, but the Chinese contributed more to engineering. You people here sure don’t understand anything about history, science, engineering, or mathematics do you? You probably think engineering and science are the same thing, lol.

The reason why the Chinese contributed more to engineering is because it was in Chinese culture to build labor saving devices. Indians never had that culture of building machines, so they didn’t, but they were certainly intellectually capable of, the ancient Harappa piping system was only surpassed in the 19th century. Even though the Chinese had the population advantage and the culture advantage because the Chinese have no creativity the Europeans came and surpassed them easily within a few years in engineering. You would think with such a high population and having gunpowder first the Chinese would’ve done more.

The Sicilian Archimedes, the Greek Hero of Alexendria and the Arab al-Jazari were all better engineers than the Chinese were by far. The Chinese writing system is one of the most inefficient in the world, you need a million characters instead of just a few letters. China’s IQ on IQLeague.com is only 92, so I doubt the Chinese really have the high average IQ.

The Chinese have the highest population in the world, a much better economy than India, lower poverty rates, better education, and supposedly the IQ, so why aren’t the best physicists and mathematicians in the world Chinese? Given the population advantage, environmental advantage, and supposed IQ advantage you would think the Chinese would’ve contributed much more to physics and mathematics, but they didn’t. Indians with the economical disadvantage and supposed IQ disadvantage still contributed more than the Chinese. This is because the Chinese have no creativity, they’re just like robots.

The way you measure contributions to science and mathematics isn’t who wins awards and competitions that have nothing to do with the growth of science or mathematics fool. No one cares about that, people in real life care about contributions not how many awards someone has, Einstein didn’t even get an award for general relativity, but which physicist cares? The way you measure contributions is by looking at history to see who contributed more to mathematics and science, and Indians, Arabs, and Europeans definitely did contribute more to mathematics and science than the Chinese ever have.

The entire world uses the Hindu numeral system no one wants to use Roman Numerals or Chinese numerals. Bose-Einstein condensate is one of the biggest contributions to physics. The Ramanujan partition theory is used by computer scientists, Ramanujan’s other methods are used for the string theory, Ramanujan’s theorems and notebooks are studied by mathematicians. When you look back history at the greatest scientists and mathematicians you see some Indians and Arabs but nearly no Chinese. Chinese contributed more to inventing and engineering than to science and mathematics, although J.C. Bose did contribute to engineering with wireless communication.

Then you talk about the Puranas indicating you understand nothing about Indian philosophy or religion. There’s no religion called “Hindu” in Sanskrit or Pali. I don’t know which part of the Puranas mention oceans of ghee or whatever but that’s never mentioned by Krsna or in the Upanishads.

I do know that the earlier Puranas give the most advanced definition of God in comparison to Judeo-Christian religions. The earlier Puranas are the only religious texts that mentions atoms and multiple universes, they also use the accurate analogy of multiple universes being like particles of dust blowing the sky, which is amazingly similar to the bubble analogy used by modern day physicists. They also claim that the number of universes is greater than the number of atoms in the universe, which again fits into modern physics. They give the advanced definition of God being beyond sense perception, the origin of infinite universes, smaller than the atom, and the world being like an illusory dream.

Some of the very best biggest physicists were actually Vedantists, like J. Robert Oppenheimer.

“It is curious that people like Schroedinger, Niels Bohr, and Oppenheimer were Upanishad scholars” - Wheeler
“What we shall find in modern physics is an exemplification, an encouragement, and a refinement of old Hindu wisdom” - Oppenheimer

Then you talk about Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc….but Singapore is a mixed country and 42.5% Buddhist. Other countries with higher Chinese populations than Singapore aren’t doing as well as Singapore, why is this? I don’t know what empirical evidence you’re talking about, but a lot of economic forecasters are now saying India’s economy will be better than China’s in the future. India is still dealing with Muslims, poverty, illiteracy, poor education, and other nonsense. There are many many countries that don’t have a national defense as strong as India’s. India’s Air Force is the 4th largest in the world.

Then you mentioned shitty awards again, but people in real life don’t care about awards, Einstein didn’t get an award for general relativity, James Clerk Maxwell didn’t get an award for electromagnetic theory, but who cares?
With all those awards, the supposed high average IQ, and the very highest population the Chinese still can’t contribute as much as Europeans, Arabs, or Indians, why is this?

Then you use lame quotes from hundreds of years ago when DNA and atoms didn’t even exist in science.

“During the mutual exchanges between the two civilizations in the past, although certain Chinese technologies and inventions contributed to Indian civilization, in general, especially in spiritual terms, it was mainly China that learned from India. In one thousand years or so, India was China’s teacher. Chinese people will never forget that” - Mao Siwei

Then you try to talk about desi’s not being described as good tempered or whatever. But I’m only responding to hatred from the Chinese and Europeans. The Chinese hate on India much more and the Europeans and Chinese have historically been much more cruel and ill-tempered. The Greek philosopher Apollonius borrowed a lot of peaceful philosophy from India as did the Chinese.

The only thing I know deep down is that you just sound like another dumb brainwashed white suck up.

@Kulak

What a fuckin idiot. DNA testing shows that Indians were mixed throughout history dumbass. Where’s your evidence that they were “unmixed” Indo-European Aryan in the past? Oh wait you have none, just embarrassingly wrong claims.

Here is my ‘evidence’, your desi arrogance -

Indo-Aryans of South Asia, The forgotten Whites

Aryan-The name goes back thousands of years. It is used in reference to whites that once lived in Middle Eastern areas such as India and Iran. This group later migrated to Europe and became known as the Indo-Europeans. From the Indo-Europeans sprang four groups: Celts, Germans, Balts, and Slavs. Their migration into Europe ranges from 4000BC to 500BC. The Indo-Europeans mixed with racially similar whites that already inhabited Europe. The white Aryans that stayed in the Middle East lost their genetic strain by interbreeding with the Semitic race. Other Aryans went into the Far East and they too bred themselves out of existence. Today, the word Aryan means a non-Semitic person of white European descent.

As an enduring symbol of the Indo-European peoples where ever they went, the swastika is found in all the lands where these people settled.

Example: SWASTIKA IN INDIA

This is also from Bhagwad Gita: The reality is Bhagwad Gita says: With the preponderance of vice, Krsna, the women of the family become corrupt; and with the corruption of women, O descendent of Vrsni, there ensures an intermixture of castes. Bhagwad Geeta goes on: Adnixture of blood damns the destroyers of the race as well as the race itself. Texts 41-42

ARYANA - THE ARYAN ORIGIN OF IN SOUTH ASIA

Around the year 2000 BC, originating in the Caucasus, a sun worshipping Indo-European tribe calling themselves Aryans, using a language known as Sanskrit, invaded central Asia and occupied territory as far as the North of India. These invaders were what became known as the original Aryans.

In fact, all of those countries spanning their age of conquest bear names directly related to them - India, Iran, Iraq are all corruptions of the original word “Aryan”. (Far off distant racial cousins of the Aryans went west, penetrating as far as Ireland, giving the name “Eire” to that land - also a derivative of the word Aryan).

After 2000 BC, waves of Aryans flooded into modern day Afghanistan, setting up a up a nation which became known as Aryana, or “Land of the Aryans.” By the middle of the 6th Century BC the Persian Empire had incorporated Aryana into its boundaries, and by 330 BC, Alexander the Great had occupied the region.

By this time most of the original Aryans in Aryana had been absorbed into the local native population, although it is still possible to this day to see light eyed and light haired individuals amongst the modern Afghanistan population.

During the 1st Century AD, the Kushans, an Asiatic race, occupied Aryana, with their rule destroying the last vestiges of the original Indo-Aryan culture and race. Thereafter Aryana fell under the rule of a large number of different Non-White races, until the 7th Century AD when Arab Muslim armies occupied the region. In 1220 the region was once again overrun by Mongols under Genghis Khan, who devastated the land. By this time the people of Aryana had passed into history - and only that country’s name is remembered today.

THE ARYANS AND INDIA

Another branch of the Aryans penetrated as far east as India, where they also settled and built up a civilization.

Although the Aryans established a powerful White civilization in Northern India, it would be incorrect to think that the native Indians had not created anything of their own.

The Indus civilization created by the Harrapans was already in existence by the time the Aryans invaded.

The invading Aryans were however more advanced and referred to the conquered Indians as “Dasyu” - the “dark ones” or slaves.

Indo-Aryan poetry (the Vedas) are full of stories of war against the Dasyu, and reflected that stark racial divisions between the conquering Aryans and the conquered Indians.

At the time of the writing of the main religious books of the Aryans - the Rigvedas - a distinction was drawn between the two types of people in the Indus river valley: the “fair” conquering immigrants and the “dark” native people.

Within three hundred years however, physical mixing had proceeded to the point where these two racial classes had been further subdivided further, with membership in each class being determined solely on the basis of how light or how dark an individual’s skin color was.

These divisions led to a color based class system being developed, known today as the caste system. The word caste was only given to the system by Portuguese travelers many centuries later, coming from the Latin word castus, meaning pure. The original Sanskrit for the caste system was “varna”, which means color.

As assimilation and integration between the Aryans and the Dasyu increased, the caste system became more and more complex, till four major divisions were created, with membership in each group dependent upon the coloring of the individual.

This four tier system still exists in India today, with the highest caste, the Brahmans (or “priests”) being the lightest in color, and the Sudas or “untouchables” are the darkest.

Within a few hundred years the original Aryans had become so assimilated that their contribution to Indian civilization can be considered to be at an end.

Their legacy lives on in the language, religion and poetry of India - and of course the caste system.

http://indoaryantoday.tripod.com/

Here is some more evidence, your Indian highness -

History of Ancient Indian Conquest Told in Modern Genes, Experts Say

San Francisco Chronicle, 26 May 1999

Robert Cooke, Newsday

Like an indelible signature enduring through a hundred generations, genes that entered India when conquering hordes swooped down from the north thousands of years ago are still there, and remain entrenched at the top of the caste system, scientists report. Analyses of the male Y chromosome, plus genes hidden in small cellular bodies called mitochondria, show that today’s genetic patterns agree with accounts of ancient Indo-European warriors’ conquering the Indian subcontinent.

The invaders apparently shoved the local men aside, took their women and set up the rigid caste system that exists today. Their descendants are still the elite within Hindu society.

INVADING CAUCASOIDS

Thus today’s genetic patterns, the researchers explained, vividly reflect a historic event, or events, that occurred 3,000 or 4,000 years ago. The gene patterns ``are consistent with a historical scenario in which invading Caucasoids—primarily males—established the caste system and occupied the highest positions, placing the indigenous population, who were more similar to Asians, in lower caste positions.’‘

...

The ancient story holds that invaders known as Indo-Europeans, or true Aryans, came from Eastern Europe or western Asia and conquered the Indian subcontinent. The people they subdued descended from the original inhabitants who had arrived far earlier from Africa and from other parts of Asia.

During the genetic studies, in 1996 and 1997, researchers took blood samples from hundreds of people in southern India. The analyses compared the genes from 316 caste members and 330 members of tribal populations, looking for signs of Asian, European and African ancestry.

In the mitochondrial genes passed along by females, Jorde said, they could see the clear background of Asian genes. ``All of the caste groups were similar to Asians, the underlying population’’ that had originally been subdued.

But, he added, ``when we look at the Y chromosome DNA, we see a very different pattern. The lower castes are most similar to Asians, and the upper castes are more European than Asian.’’

Further, ``when we look at the different components within the upper caste, the group with the greatest European similarity of all is the warrior class, the Kshatriya, who are still at the top of the Hindu castes, with the Brahmins,’’ Jorde said.

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CASTE SYSTEM STILL ALIVE

He added that even though India’s ancient caste system was abolished legally in the 1960s, it is still entrenched socially.

``People are very well aware of their caste membership,’’ he said, noting that in some cities the housing is still arranged along caste lines. So ``one might argue, unfortunately so, that it (the caste system) does exist in people’s minds.’’

In terms of who marries whom, the researchers described the Hindu caste system as ``governing the mating practices of nearly one-sixth of the world’s population.’’

The blood samples taken from tribal people in southern India are still being analyzed, Jorde added.

But so far, ``the tribal populations are more similar to the lower castes than to anyone else, similar to the original residents of India,’’ he said.

http://indoaryantoday.tripod.com/indoaryansofsouthasiatheforgottenwhites/id5.html

Remember, dude, this is still Our blog, and your just a guest.

Yeah because Ramanujan, J.C. Bose, and Satyendra Nath Bose are from ancient times…oh wait they’re not.

You can go back to using Roman Numerals or Chinese numerals if you want. I wonder why all the great advancements in science, mathematics, and engineering only came about after the use of the Hindu numeral system and not prior…

Well well well, the arrogant Indian racist is getting even more arrogant and racist. Now he comes to this blog with the handle “Indiansaresmarter” rather than just “smart”.

Look here, I don’t give a damn about how supposedly “smart” a few Indians are in that disgusting “country” you call “India”. Only an extremely insecure little brown desi beta-nerd like yourself cares about that stuff.

Again, if some of you really are supposedly intelligent, you would want to stay in your God-forsaken country helping out your co-ethnics rather than bragging and boasting to White men, on a White “racist” blog, no less! Nah, your too typical of most little Indians that I have encountered in the West: spoiled, arrogant and mommy-pampered desis to the core. In fact, no other race or ethnic group really respects you, since all you people are are exploiters and interlopers, as well as some of the greediest people on the planet.

That’s right, Europeans immigrated from Europe to non-European regions. Europeans just don’t want to stay in their own fuckin continent. They want to immigrate then tell other people you’re not allowed to immigrate, lol. Why would you move out of Europe if you wanted to only be among Europeans? There’s lots of European countries that have populations that are nearly 100% white, why not just get the fuck out and help bad economy all-white European countries like Ukraine out?

The bottom line is America (and the Rest of the West) is a White Man’s Country and Civilization, built by him and for him. We did just fine without all you (supposedly) “smart” Indians before the 1965 third world immigration invasion—and we will do just fine without you. Whites envisioned and built America—Indians and other non-Whites came to a great nation that was already built.

You are not my co-ethnic—and I am not your co-ethnic—hence we will never be able to live in the same nation or territory together (Good Lord, you guys can’t even properly get along with other castes and sub-races in your own country).

Nor do I especially wish to have you or other Indians, Asians or any other non-Whites in my country taking away precious resources from me, my family, and any of my co-ethnic Northern Europeans, who are my People—especially our jobs and dipping into our collective wealth in this awful economic downturn. It is not yours or any other brown person’s “right” to come to this or any other majority-White country.

Here is a classic example of the pampered desi beta-boy nerds falling for and believing their own lies and ethnic cheerleaders:

India rising in US: Govt falls victim to net hoax
Chidanand Rajghatta, TNN, Mar 12, 2008, 12.10am IST

WASHINGTON: It’s an Internet myth that has taken on a life of its own. No matter how often you slay this phony legend, it keeps popping up again like some hydra-headed beast.

But on Monday, the Indian government itself consecrated the oft-circulated fiction as fact in Parliament, possibly laying itself open to a breach of privilege. By relaying to Rajya Sabha members (as reported in The Times of India) a host of unsubstantiated and inflated figures about Indian professionals in US, the government also made a laughing stock of itself.

The figures provided by the Minister of State for Human Resource Development Purandeshwari included claims that 38 per cent of doctors in US are Indians, as are 36 per cent of NASA scientists and 34 per cent of Microsoft employees.

There is no survey that establishes these numbers, and absent a government clarification, it appears that the figures come from a shop-worn Internet chain mail that has been in circulation for many years. Spam has finally found its way into the Indian parliament dressed up as fact.

Attempts by this correspondent over the years to authenticate the figures have shown that it is exaggerated, and even false. Both Microsoft and NASA say they don’t keep an ethnic headcount. While they acknowledge that a large number of their employees are of Indian origin, it is hardly in the 30-35 per cent range.

In a 2003 interview with this correspondent, Microsoft chief Bill Gates guessed that the number of Indians in the engineering sections of the company was perhaps in the region of 20 per cent, but he thought the overall figure was not true. NASA workers say the number of Indians in the organization is in the region of 4-5 per cent, but the 36 per cent figure is pure fiction.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/India-rising-in-US-Govt-falls-victim-to-net-hoax/articleshow/2856295.cms

Indians are the stupidest dumbfukkers in the world.

They only know how to talk junk and make junk. Including mass reproduction of ugly and smelly turdskin babies.

Buy a Tata Nano and see first hand what Indian innovation is really like. The friggin shitbox the Indians call a car will burst into flames the moment the ignition is turned on.

You ugly dotheads should show some real smartness by making your own country into a decent place to live in, so that you all ugly dotheads don’t need to wash up on everybody else’s country like overflowing sewerage.

But no, all you ‘smart’ Indians can do is make a shithole out of any country that you populate. Your own country is the world’s biggest shithole where the majority of the people don’t even own a toilet to do their shit in.

Heres proof:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aErNiP_V4RLc&refer=exclusive

@IndiansAreSmarter (or Dumber)

Read the article, you rat worshipping, cow pee drinking muddafukka. Stop your empty bragging and read the article first. Indians like you are so smart, that you haven’t even invented the toilet in your country.

India sure will overtake China and the rest of the world in open defecation.

India sure will overtake China and the rest of the world in open defecation.

Sorry about the sentence. What I really mean’t to say was:

India already leads the whole world in open defecation.

The figures provided by the Minister of State for Human Resource Development Purandeshwari included claims that 38 per cent of doctors in US are Indians, as are 36 per cent of NASA scientists and 34 per cent of Microsoft employees.

If that were true it would explain a lot!

Wow Kulak is quoting a trip blog, probably his own, to make tall, bogus claims. Don’t know if its stupidity or vanity, maybe its both.

“Some of the very best biggest physicists were actually Vedantists, like J. Robert Oppenheimer.”

Read some opinions of the peers of Robert Oppenheimer who associate his relative lack of achievement compared to his prodigious intelligence to his irrational oriental beliefs.

If you are trying to establish primal superiority of the Vedas then lets talk of it as a whole and not selectively. The who Yajur Veda is nothing but a compilation of magical spells and voodoo for warding off ghosts and snake venom. Infact 90% of the Vedas is nothing but a product of a dark age imagination terrified of the vast unknown. In that it is no different from most ancient religious texts. You do get some gems like the Bhumi Sukta and the atheistic sentiment expressed in the Rg Veda but sublime as they are, they are statistically quite probable for such a vast piece of literature and nothing to justify an exemplary status for the whole body of work.

“but a lot of economic forecasters are now saying India’s economy will be better than China’s in the future.”

Take them with a punch of salt and curry. That is what those ‘Times of India’ surveys are worth. No credible economist without a motivated agenda would bet on Indian economy ‘bettering’ China’s in the future. I live in India, and have been to China, and I can call it for what it is - bs.

“Indians never had that culture of building machines, so they didn’t, but they were certainly intellectually capable of, the ancient Harappa piping system was only surpassed in the 19th century.”

India didn’t have a culture of wearing stitched clothes either (look it up). Women of the lower castes used to roam around with their breasts exposed in ancient times. Even the Royals imported Persian ways of court including drapering. Looks like India didn’t have a culture for anything scientifically refined - just study the coins minted during the Mauryan and Gupta empire, and compare them to what the Bactrian barbarians minted. Forget machining, there is not much proof of Indian craftsmanship either.

“Even though the Chinese had the population advantage and the culture advantage because the Chinese have no creativity the Europeans came and surpassed them easily within a few years in engineering.”

This sounds similar to what parents of underachieving kids tell their peers “Bhupinder may not be as smart as his Li but he is CREATIVE” which means exactly what it is - more BS. I am not going to argue over these imponderable straw mans, just look at the number of scientific Patents filed by China compared to India and figure it out.

“You would think with such a high population and having gunpowder first the Chinese would’ve done more.”

I have the same question for India. 5000 years of civilization, huge population, immense wealth and nothing to show for material achievement ?

“It is curious that people like Schroedinger, Niels Bohr, and Oppenheimer were Upanishad scholars” - Wheeler

Yes, scientists tend to be well read and posessing contrarian natures. Orientalism was the in fashion and Occidentalism was out. What is your point ? They took bhaang and did jaap and saw the wave equation in some sort of epiphany ? You have an immature grasp of complex ideas. You can’t see that there is no correlation between them being great scientists and their interests. You just extrapolate quotations to suit your agenda and fill the gaps in your inferiority complex. Not a very high IQ trait and quite typical. Out of curiousity, are you Punjabi?

“They give the advanced definition of God being beyond sense perception, the origin of infinite universes, smaller than the atom, and the world being like an illusory dream. “

Which part of scientific fact are you trying to corroborate with such statements. That God exists? World is like an illusionary dream?

“Then you mentioned shitty awards again, but people in real life don’t care about awards, Einstein didn’t get an award for general relativity”

When Indian americans win the spelling bee chest thumpers like you are all over the internet crapping on discussion boards claiming Indian superiority, but Math, Physics olympiad and programming contests dominated by the Chinese are ‘shitty’ achievement. Very convenient, typically Indian behavior.

And put the Mao’s comment in perspective dude, it just shows how modest the Chinese are. We could learn a lot imbibing that trait. I have met several Chinese, and most don’t hate on India, they just don’t think much of it. Who can blame them? They beat us at war, and do beat us at everything including the atheltic and math olympics. We look down upon Nepalis in India don’t we? Why do we do that, Nepal was historically never conquered by us, and never even conquered by the mighty British, while we were. Then how do you expect the White and the Chinese who beat us at war to give us respect? You don’t demand respect, you work silently and command it. You don’t see the Chinese arguing on boards or pimpin their achievements but all thinking people know what they have achieved.