The Indian/Chinese IQ puzzle
lol the people here are stupid as fuck….after the IQ fans find out that Richard Feymann’s IQ is only 125 they say it must be a mistake…Feymann wasn’t joking when he took the test it was taken in high school…Henri Poincare’s IQ was also had a low IQ, he failed an IQ test…all IQ measures is how well you can answer IQ test questions…if someone isn’t good at answering IQ test questions then they will NOT get a high IQ score (obviously)
Oh yeah the supposed average IQ of 81 for India is guessed and estimated…what a joke but the Europeans and even dumber Chinese wouldn’t know that…
“Rather than do their own IQ studies (a potentially massive project), the authors average and adjust existing studies”
LOL what a joke, but that’s all the Chinese and Europeans can do is joke and hate, they are really stupid as fuck
All the other non-guessed sources don’t show Indians having an average IQ of 81…I wonder why (lol)
Chinese worship white people, everywhere you go they always suck up it’s so disgusting, that’s why some Europeans (but only some) like the Chinese, this Chinese guy told me that “China sucked and Europe was the best” I was like damn…they hate themselves
The only thing the Chinese can do is mimic and copy and eat dogs and snakes as food. They are really cruel as fuck try to behead students at VA Tech and blow up the Discovery Channel building. They can’t speak English well at all and Indians are much more successful in the US than the Chinese are.
Now watch I was ruin the arguments from the other responses…
@Wuddat I’m not boasting just stating the facts…Ramanujan really is better than EVERY Chinese mathematician that ever existed and he really was poor and uneducated, self-taught, suffering from malnutrition
The simple FACT is:
The best Indian mathematicians > The best Chinese mathematicians
The best Indian physicists > The best Chinese physicists (if a best even exist)
The best Indian engineers > The best Chinese engineers
I don’t view the Chinese as any threat intellectually because they only have the ability to mimic and copy everything everyone already did. I view Europeans and Arabs as much smarter. The only way the Chinese can be a threat is if they successfully mimic and copy from someone else, they are really stupid as fuck. I think Africans are waaay smarter than the Chinese because creativity alone matters so much more.
@Kulak I’m not saying the Aryan invasion theory is entirely false, but it’s definitely not entirely true. The simple fact is there are no Aryan texts outside of India. Europeans in India were known as mlecchas and the lowest like a dalit. The evidence more strongly points towards migration than invasion, but so what if there was a migration? When people talk about Greek history they don’t start out saying Arabs migrated to Greece and started Greek culture. The Greeks stole writing from the Arabs.
The word Aryan means “Noble” that’s why Buddhism is called “Ariya Magga” and Noble Eightfold Path and The Four Noble Truths are called “Ariya” in pali. In the pali canons the Buddha said the Greeks were lower than the Indians because they did not value controlling the mind and meditation like India (or Jambupada as it was called) did. Why didn’t The Buddha call them Aryan?
@Troll Detector lol….the only people who respect white people are the Chinese, since the Chinese worship white people, and some Mexicans also worship white people. Other than that the entire world hates white people, even some white historians hate white people. No one besides the Chinese respects white people, especially white people.
The simple historical fact is the whites are most hateful cruel race besides the Chinese, just as they are called truly mlecchas, mean-spirited cruel people.
Aryan philosophy is the greatest that’s why some Europeans try to falsely claim themselves as Aryan when they are really just mlecchas.
White people don’t know shit about history do they? You talk about the US being the “white man’s” land founded by whites for whites even though the founding fathers of the US were libertarians and didn’t put anything in the constitution saying it was for whites only, the reason why immigration laws were overturned was because of the founders’ vision that “all men are created equal”. They didn’t even want immigration laws at all, they truly wanted an entirely free country. So why are you loser white nationalists so against the people who built up America? America was NOT built for whites only.
Then you talked about America doing just fine pre-1965 even though during the Great Depression when America was a much much much more white country the economy was much much much worse. You just try to blame all of your own problems on non-whites.
Then you tried to mention the hoax that the Indian govt fell too even though anyone can point out so much misinformation that American politicians have fallen to.
Mlecchas lose again. Aryan intellect wins.
@IndiansAreDumbest lol….white girls are the #1 sluttiest in the world…the top 7 most promiscuous countries are all made up of mostly white European women
Lol India won Miss Universe 2 times, China won Miss Universe 0 times, India won Miss World 5 times and China won only 1 time.
In the 1700s India had the highest GDP dumbass, higher than China and Europe. One thing whites can’t understand is that economies change from time to time, they’re under the delusion that it remains constant forever. Now after the British Raj ruined everything India is slowly coming back up.
Rat worshiping? What a dumb mleccha.
“One should meditate on the omniscient, primordial, the controller, smaller than the smallest particle, yet the maintainer of everything; whose form is inconceivable, resplendent like the sun and totally transcendental to material nature” - Bhagavad Gita, 8.9
Why isn’t there any white religion which gives such an advanced definition of God? What do whites have? Norse mythology? LOL what a joke mlecchas are.
@IndiaCynic I wasn’t talking about the Vedas fool, why are you mentioning the Vedas? I don’t think the Vedas are even an actual Aryan text. As for the opinion of Robert Oppenheimer by his peers, that’s irrelevant. Newton and Faraday were the most religious scientists much more religious than all of their peers, so what? The fact is Robert Oppenheimer was never raised to be a Hindu he was just attracted to it.
Lol the economists that were saying India had an advantage over China were white. Then you changed the subject to something about Indian fashion.
The only people who don’t understand how much creativity matters are the IQ fans. Why were so many of the greatest mathematicians, engineers, and physicists people who were uneducated and had low IQs? All IQ measures through Ockham’s razor is how well you can answer IQ test questions. But if IQ matters so much to you then some of the people with the most extremely high IQs are from India but none are from China. BTW my IQ is 140+ but I don’t really care about IQ.
According to the studies done, creativity definitely matters fool, but you wouldn’t know anything about studies. You just watch TV and saw some parent say “he’s not smart but he has creativity” then thought “oh that’s what dumb people say”.
According to real studies done IQ and Creativity are different.
“Initially, military scouts used conventional intelligence tests to identify such candidates. But they soon realized a high IQ was useless in finding inventive superpilots, and they resorted to more anecdotal measures.” - Kraft, 2005
LOL, the number of patents filed by China vs India? Quantity doesn’t matter dumbass, quality does. I’m sure with at least a 600 million educated literate advantage over India the Chinese definitely file more patents than Indians. But quality matters much more. Anyone can file patents for any meaningless idea they have, don’t you know that?
If the Chinese really are so creative as you claim then explain why given the supposed IQ advantage and
definite population advantage of at least 600 million literate why China hasn’t produced even ONE mathematician as good as Ramanujan or even Brahmagupta?
Creativity matters a lot for being a great mathematician, and since the Chinese win so many useless math contests that have to do with mimicking and copying, why aren’t any of the best mathematicians of all time Chinese if they have so much creativity like you claim?
Even one of Ramanujan’s formulas, like Ramanujan’s pi formula is worth more to mathematicians and computer scientists than winning the “International Math Olympiad” a 1000 times in a row.
Jagadish Chandra Bose is a better engineer than EVERY Chinese engineer that ever existed. That’s just a plain fact. He used 60 GHz frequencies back in the 1890s and was the very first to use the semiconductor junction to detect radio waves. The US actually uses concepts from his original paper even today.
“J.C. Bose was at least 60 years ahead of his time” - Nevill Mott
Then you mention India’s supposed high population. The only problem is India never had a high LITERATE population. Brahmins forbade others from learning to read similar to what Egyptians did. So India didn’t have a high literate population fool, it just had a high population.
Using relevant sources or quotations to support your argument is something done by everyone fool. In fact, you were the one who initially started to use quotes. Now you’re claiming it doesn’t matter and indicates inferiority complex, wtf? Just a sign of someone losing the argument.
I didn’t say Indian philosophy was a scientific fact fool, I said it has the very most advanced definition of God that stands up to science.
Then you tried to lie and say that I talk about Indians winning awards when I never did nor have. Chinese modest? Look at all the comments of the Chinese making fun of Indians and very few Indians responding back. I always see the Chinese bragging about their achievements all the time, so what are you talking about? Most of the Chinese people I know are either arrogant and mean-spirited or quiet and passive. Mao’s statement was just plain honesty, it’s undeniable that Buddhism originated in India and use to dominate China, and now still dominates Japan.
Who cares about gaining respect from racists? Respect will be gained naturally not from trying to suck up like the Chinese do. So I don’t care about these white nationalists losers.
@Wuddat lol…I hear a lot more white people being arrogant and claiming that whites are superior dumbass. By saying “IndiansAreSmarter” I was only referring to being smarter than the supposed average IQ of 81.
Stupid mlecchas, just like the truth Aryans will always prevail. But there aren’t many Aryans left in India anymore like when Ram ruled only a few now. A lot of Indians have transformed into self-hating fools and definitely don’t know anything about meditation, concentration or the real Aryan philosophy like I and only a few other pure Aryans do.
White people don’t know shit about history do they? You talk about the US being the “white man’s” land founded by whites for whites even though the founding fathers of the US were libertarians and didn’t put anything in the constitution saying it was for whites only, the reason why immigration laws were overturned was because of the founders’ vision that “all men are created equal”. They didn’t even want immigration laws at all, they truly wanted an entirely free country. So why are you loser white nationalists so against the people who built up America? America was NOT built for whites only.
Benjamin Franklin
Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Compexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.
John Jay
With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people—a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.
Thomas Jefferson
Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them. It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation and deportation peaceably and in such slow degree as that the evil will wear off insensibly, and their place be pari passu filled up by free white laborers. If on the contrary it is left to force itself on, human nature must shudder at the prospect held up.
Thomas Jefferson
Will not a lover of natural history then, one who views the gradations in all the races of animals with the eye of philosophy, excuse an effort to keep those in the department of man as distinct as nature has formed them? . . . Among the Romans emancipation required but one effort. The slave, when made free, might mix with, without staining the blood of his master. But with us a second is necessary, unknown to history. When freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture.
Michael Lind, The New American Nation
The real Thomas Jefferson, as I have shown elsewhere in this and other chapters, was a fervent believer in white supremacy and the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon branch of the white race. His Anglo-Saxonism and racism were not tangential to his thought and career; neither his views on the colonization of black Americans nor his elaborate political and economic theories can be understood except as elements of a single project of preserving the purity of the Anglo-American race. Jefferson was obsessed, in particular, by the fear that his precious Anglo-Saxon nation would be corrupted by intermarriage with nonwhites. Fear of miscegenation was perhaps the most consistent aspect of his thought, from his youth to his old age. During the American Revolution, Jefferson, as a member of a Virginia legislative committee charged with revising state law, helped to tighten the slave codes and forbid free blacks from becoming citizens - even as rules governing the immigration of whites were liberalized. The Virginia legislature rejected, as too harsh, another proposal of Jefferson’s, which would have banished from the state any white woman bearing “a child by a negro or mulatto,” on pain of the enslavement of the child.
@one lol…those quotes don’t come from the US constitution do they? They also have nothing to do with immigration laws but the personal beliefs of people (namely in separation)....The Founding Fathers of the US definitely did not believe in race mixing no doubt about it but they also definitely did not pass absolutely any legislation prohibiting immigration
The first immigration LAW came in the 1880s…well really the 1920s….not in the 1780s
But if you want to use quotes here’s some other quotes on immigration from the founding fathers of the US:
“Let the poor, the needy and oppressed of the Earth, and those who want Land, resort to the fertile plains of our western country, the Second Land of Promise, and there dwell in peace, fulfilling the first and great commandment” - George Washington
“Those who live under arbitrary power do nevertheless approve of Liberty, and wish for it” - Benjamin Franklin
“I hold the right of expatriation to be inherent in every man by the laws of nature, and incapable of being rightfully taken from him even by the united will of every other person in the nation. If the laws have provided no particular mode by which the right of expatriation may be exercised, the individual may do it by any effectual and unequivocal act or declaration.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Born in other countries, yet believing you could be happy in this, our laws acknowledge, as they should do, your right to join us in society, conforming, as I doubt not you will do, to our established rules. That these rules shall be as equal as prudential considerations will admit, will certainly be the aim of our legislatures, general and particular” - Thomas Jefferson
White Nationalists are living in a fantasy world that the founding fathers were against immigration. They were for one of the most free countries imaginable which socialists, national socialists and white nationalist today are trying to destroy.
The bottom line is the founding fathers never tried to have pass a European-only immigration law or anything like that, they just believed in separatism.
White Nationalists are living in a fantasy world that the founding fathers were against immigration. They were for one of the most free countries imaginable which socialists, national socialists and white nationalist today are trying to destroy.
Franklin wanted to exclude “all Blacks and Tawneys.” Jefferson wanted to deport blacks to Haiti. James Monroe belonged to the American Colonization Society.
Lincoln
A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation but as an immediate separation is impossible the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas. That is at least one self-evident truth.
Johnson
This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men.
The Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Focus on a specific doctrine of long ago is a red herring.
Wilmot Robertson, The Ethnostate
Doctrinal Updating. It is no surprise that the argument for ethnostates clashes head-on with the doctrine of nationhood. The British constitution is unwritten, but it contains a body of law, some elements of which accelerated the breakup of the empire, but which would directly oppose devolution in the United Kingdom. To establish ethnostates in America the written constitution would have to be amended in such a manner as to make it almost unrecognizable. Among much else, the Declaration of Independence’s appeal for “a more perfect union” would have to be discarded in the wastebasket of ideas that have outlived their usefulness and been outmoded by time.
Traditions established by enduring forms of statehood exert a powerful force for conserving the state and for clinging to the status quo, which is why the breakup of larger into smaller political entities will be as fiercely resisted by conservatives as by liberals and leftists. For this reason, ethnostate advocates would do well to emphasize and highlight the impermanence of doctrine. Doctrine emerges from the collective will, if not of the people, at least of an elite. It addresses both the historical experience and the problems at hand. It steadies the ship of state and makes a great deal of sense as long as the seas do not get too stormy and the keel holds fast.
The American Founding Fathers composed the Bill of Rights, which provided strong legal protection to trespassers of the law by guaranteeing due process. If James Madison and George Mason, the two gentlemen most responsible for Amendments I through X of the Constitution, had lived in New York City two centuries later and faced the same task, would they have produced the same document? The Bill of Rights was devised for a small, pioneering nation, whose citizenry derived almost entirely from the British Isles. These Britons had developed a certain respect for individual rights and had already succeeded in abolishing some of the more tyrannical aspects of absolutism.
Two centuries later in New York City, where crime is almost out of control, where the British element of the population has all but vanished, where the population is largely composed of inimical and feuding racial groups, many of whose members had migrated from countries with no experience whatsoever with democracy, the conditions confronting the authors working on a new Bill of Rights would be radically different from the conditions that existed in the late 18th century.
At work on a new or revised Bill of Rights, Madison and Mason would certainly have extended much more legal protection to the victims of crime than to criminals. Nevertheless, leaders of almost all political persuasions, as well as the minority members who directly benefit from the liberties provided by the first Ten Amendments, keep appealing to the Constitution and due process when they try, in most cases in vain, to cope with the surge of criminality. Unheedful of the sound proverbial advice, autres temps, autres moeurs, the same constitutional protections are still in place. What was appropriate two centuries ago for one population group is by no means appropriate for a totally different mix of people in a vast, unwieldy, crime-ridden heterogeneous nation.
Doctrine depends on time and place. When time and place change, doctrine, if it is to continue to have any relevancy, must change. As history painfully demonstrates, however, it is one of the last things to change. More often than not, political doctrines have to be dragged up to the present and revised and remodeled by force. The more doctrine lags behind the times, the more abrupt will be the way it is changed, when it can no longer avoid change. The breathless modernization of Japan in the latter half of the 19th century, the transformation of the British Empire into the British Commonwealth, the convulsions of the Soviet Union in the 20th century, the establishment of the European Community—all these radical changes, sometimes violent, sometimes peaceful, were preceded or accompanied by radical changes of doctrine.
anyone can piece together a doctrine. The trick is to formulate one that is realistic, that applies to the conditions at hand and has a better than even chance of being implemented. In an age when much of the world is graying with pollution, uniformity and lawlessness, when nations are losing what little character they have left, growing numbers of Westerners are ready to shed anachronistic doctrines for ones better suited to the times. Hanging on to dead ideas that should have been buried long since, is, besides being an invitation to disaster, a perversion that comes close to ideological necrophilia.
Wilmot Robertson, Ventilations
Also to be rigorously avoided are ringing appeals to save “our cherished institutions.” Races make institutions, not vice versa. The Constitution will never save the Majority, but the Majority, once again in control of the state, may save the Constitution.
@one….there were no immigration restrictions up until the Page Act of 1875 (which was against the Chinese)....The Founding Fathers of the US placed absolutely no restrictions on immigration at all and definitely did not want any type of immigration law, there were many non-citizens living freely and willingly and founders didn’t do anything about it or try to pass any law or act against it. Thomas Jefferson staunchly believed that immigration was a natural right.
Many other European countries had immigration laws and restrictions but America didn’t, America was supposed to be a different, new, free country.
The founding fathers wanted most problems people had to be solved without using any type of government force or laws.
After US politicians started going against the will of the founders things started falling down and the “free country” called America started to become lost and gone
White Nationalists are definitely against libertarianism and the founding fathers, they’re more for left-wing socialism and national socialism, strong regulations, bigger government, regulation of markets, and more government control. And their hero biologist is liberal atheist James D. Watson and increasingly more White Nationalists now are atheists and agnostics or non-religious and 95% of China is atheist. They want the government to restrict and control everything and are trying to ruin the country with their big government national socialist ideals.
the reason for IQ diffrence between indians and chinese is the diversity of indian population being higher than the chinese. indians have some extremely brilliant people but the majority is not.on the other hand chinese may not have the extremely brilliant people but on average less diverse but higher IQ population.
I keep reading similar sentiments like this but the facts don’t support this. As many commentators have already pointed out, the Chinese dominate most Science-based competetions like the Math, Physics, Chemistry, Informatics and Biology Olympiad. East asians, as a rule, do very well with westerners close behind. Indians don’t even come close. Even when it comes to computer programming—supposedly, the Indian forte —east asians and westerners still dominate. The thing about these competitions is that they don’t compare the average students of one country with the average students of another; they compare the best and the brightest of one country with the best and the brightest of another. So if India have more—and smarter—high IQ people than China, shouldn’t they do a lot better in these competitions?
The argument works a lot better with a country like Russia. Based on Lynn’s book, Russia’s average IQ is no better than most western countries. While Lynn’s research methodololgy may be questionable, other studies suggest that the country’s average performance pretty much falls in line with western averages. And, yet, Russia does very well in international science contests; definitely better than the US in Math and computer programming. While there are other factors to consider—culture, politics, etc—, it does suggest that Russia’s average IQ is pretty much close to western averages but that it has a pretty high number of high IQ people. (Could it be because of its Jewish minority?) India, on the hand, seems to score lower accross the board…whether your comparing averages, top 1% or bottom 1%.
@JT Who cares about competitions that have nothing to do with advancing mathematics or physics or science at all? China does very well when it comes to the most useless, worthless, meaningless competitions that involve answering questions that have already been answered or memorizing and copying rather than contributing and advancing…and China has the very highest literate population in the entire world, more than half a billion more than India and 300 million more than all white people.
Winning competitions has to do with who participate and the countries education system. A lot of the best mathematicians and physicists never participated in the IMO or IPO at all.
Other countries that have nearly the same genetic make up as China like Hong Kong don’t do nearly as well in competitions. India beat Hong Kong most of the years in the useless IMO Competition even though Hong Kong supposedly has a much higher average IQ than India according to Lynn.
Given the fact that China has the highest literate population and wins all the competitions that have to do with answering things that have already been answered we should expect all of the best mathematicians and physicists to be Chinese, but Chinese contributions are disproportionately low for their literate population size. If population size and IQ are not the reason for their disproportionately low contributions then the only reason left is Creativity.
About Mathematics Awards…
S. R. Srinivasa Varadhan won the Abel Prize in 2007, no Chinese mathematician has ever won the Abel Prize.
The Abel Prize is like the Nobel Prize of Mathematics, awarding nearly $1 million USD, and is open to everyone.
The Fields Medal prize is not open to everyone, only people under the age of 40, and only awards $15,000 USD. But the work of Indian mathematicians like Chandrashekhar Khare, Manjul Bhargava, Mandhu Sudan, Srinivasa Varadhan, and other Indian mathematicians are just as impressive as any who won the Fields Medal.
Manindra Agrawal and Manjul Bhargava won the Clay Research Mathematics Award, only 1 Chinese person has ever won the Clay Research Award, that was Terence Tao.
Madhu Sudan won the Rolf Nevanlinna Mathematics Prize, which is nearly the same as the Fields Medal, no Chinese mathematician has ever won the Nevanlinna Prize.
Kannan Soundararajan and Manjul Bhargava won the Morgan Prize, no Chinese mathematician won yet.
Harish-Chandra and Manjul Bhargava won the Cole Prize, no Chinese mathematician has won the Cole Prize yet.
But no one who has won any of these mathematics awards and prizes is as impressive as the legendary mathematicians like Euler, Ramanujan, John von Neumann, Newton, Gauss, Euclid, Archimedes, or any of the other great mathematicians of the past.
How can you compare Hong Kong that has only 7 m people and India with 1,2 b people. You obviously don’t understand that the average IQ of population is important for a country to become developed. You cannot have a developed nation if you have a few geniuses and the rest of the population is retarded.
And compare the results of 20 million Taiwanese Chinese and 1,2 billion Indians at the Math Olympiad, you Indians can not beat even 20 million Chinese lol.
Even Hong Kong, with a population of 7 millions, occasionally beats India at the Math Olympiad. These happens in 2010, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 1989
One thing I just noticed is that there seems to be a sharp drop in India’s performance at the Math Olympiad starting in 2005. Anybody has any theory on that?
This year Robert Edwards got the nobel prize in medicine for producing the world’s first test tube baby.However,within 67 days(less than 3 months) of that achievement,Subhas Mukherjee independently created India’s first (and world’s second) test tube baby using an entirely new and innovative method.Subhas’s techinique was faster,simpler,safer and has a much higher success rate than Robert’s method.And in fact,it is Subhas’s technique and not Robert’s,that is the preferred method of IVF in modern medicine.
Subhas was the first person to work with frozen embroys and his method of “nitrogen freezing” is widely used today.India’s first test tube baby,Durga,is still doing well.Unfortunately,such was the criticism of his work at the time,that Dr.Subhas had to commit suicide.Such a tragedy!
Yet another example of an Indian genius.
A toilet in the Chinese countryside is a harrowing experience and one you will unfortunately remember for the rest of your life. The smell from a Chinese toilet can permeate the air for some considerable distance. It is a stench that on entering may send one into retreat. What may greet you is a row of rectangular holes in the ground all strewn with lumps of stale faeces and used toilet paper. There are no doors on the stalls, sometimes, even no partitions between the holes. But it isn’t just the toilets in the country that are filthy. Even toilets in big cities can be particularly unsavoury. It is not uncommon to enter a cubicle to find the previous occupant has not flushed. Perhaps such bad toilet habits are learnt whilst very young. Children can sometimes be seen urinating on the street. Many Chinese children have never worn a diaper or nappy. Instead, they have a big slit that, when they stoop down, opens and allows them to urinate or otherwise. In the last few months I have witnessed mothers allowing their young children to urinate on station platforms, streets in the heart of Qianmen and at tourist attractions, including the entrance to a Buddhist temple on the outskirts of Beijing.
China is incredibly dirty. Streets are often littered with discarded food, fruit, paper and other waste. Even in some supermarkets the grime seen on floors would shock most westerners. The most noticeable dirty habit of many Chinese people is spitting. Chinese men especially have the disgusting habit of making loud hawking sounds and spitting the contents of their actions on the road, pavement or wherever they happen to be. While it is mostly men, women too can be seen participating in this vulgar habit. Some people even spit on the bus, and onto the floors of restaurants and public toilets. Many Chinese people also seem to blow their noses in a most indiscreet and vulgar fashion. Handkerchiefs or tissues appear to be too much trouble. Instead people are often seen to use their thumb and forefinger to press their nose and loudly blow out
the contents onto the street.
In China it is not uncommon to see meat lying out on the counter and the vendor using bare hands to handle it. In summer, it often lies out in the sweltering heat all day. On streets people sell vegetables and fruit, sometimes just laid directly on the ground. They are seemingly oblivious to the fact these are the same streets upon which people spit and on which dogs defecate.
Littering is another apparently accepted habit. A recent visit to the Forbidden City in the heart of Beijing revealed how many were just unable to comprehend the use of a litter-bin. The vast courtyard leading up to the entrance of the Forbidden City was strewn with tissues, sunflower seed husks, apple cores, banana peel, orange peel, discarded corn cobs, plastic bottles and bags. My Chinese wife, who has lived in Britain many years, was also shocked at the scene which resembled not so much an ancient monument to China’s past than a garbage dump.
Real China Videos, Enjoy:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnil9Jxrx8&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCtfItsPfAg&feature=related
Toilets in china;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KffebqxPoYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkzwnQvWR38&feature=related
Butcher in Taianzin China;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIGRR_7EX8w&feature=related
What Chinese do to their dead bodies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1HWNLgIMTI
Dead babies dumped in the Chinese river;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18GUDSNxrh8&feature=fvw
horrible chinese fur industry;
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYaZU7Whh7c&p=8CACAE55AA89E4C2&playnext=1&index=5
Cat and dog massacre in China,
http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB3_qJGGzQc
Chinese dictatorial regime worlds top executioner and killer, no human rights, no freedom of speech, LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhjn5ySFtrA&feature=related
Brutal conditions in Chinese factories;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQPrbwWWUD4&feature=related
Chinas brutal labour camps;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqsY9eB1HD4&feature=related
Poor chinese workers in Brick kilns;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5v8EFCdpBs&feature=related
you can go to any big country, including the US, to find all kind of shit(see Detroit on youtube), but it is very hard to find a country where 650 million people (about 50%)defecate in open, like in India.
http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/15/in-india-665-million-defecate-in-open-un.htm
And India also has more poor people than Africa:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10609407
So it is probably true that India’s average IQ is 81.
Comparing India to sub-Saharan Africa would be a great exaggeration of how awful things are in India.
Just try comparing the average life expectancy in India to South Africa.
In spite of the fact that the Black South Africans have lots of White doctors propping up their health, and in spite of the fact that the average life expectancy in South Africa includes the longer lived White population in its calculations, the average Indian still lives more than a decade longer than the average South African:
Life expectancy in India…63.7 years
Life expectancy in South Africa…51.5 years
Source: World Bank.
To Real China,
I watched the video you posted and it is not that shocking. For example, in the video you posted to show the rural poverty in China, the children there seems to be in good health, albeit living a spartan life and without modern material comfort. But if you check out the poverty in India, the poor children looks to be in starvation, with protruded rib bones, distended bellies and skinny limbs that seems to be just skin over bones.
Also, China is the top executioner in terms of absolute number, but it is the per capita figure that matters. Singapore is actually the world’s top executioner per capita.
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