How to spot if society is DOOMED: Researchers reveal the signs that show civilization is set to collapse

Interesting your comment was not cen sore d ,but true!

We're talking about Christianity here, right?

I'm amazed this got past the DM PC patrol bot. Spot on though.

Christianity preserved knowledge...which is more than we can say for hamdillaloolah or bongo

If immigrants want to come, they need to be limited and WANT and HAVE to integrate into society, if not, they will be the downfall and destruction of a nation

The christians not wanting to integrate with the pantheon of gods of Rome was a huge problem.

worst thing is if the barbar ians do take over there is no hope for humanity advancing along the lines we westerners have set. the protected ones that are intent on taking over dont have the freedom required to expand as a people. our leftie governments cant see these dangers and instead of alerting and schooling our people re ligiously while young etc, so to speak, about fertility/ birth rates and how important it is, theyd prefer to see our existance asigned to the dustbin of history. im presuming ofc that the governments agenda is to enhance the birth rate with the in vaders....

Societies fail when people do not want to work (so turn to crime), government become despotic ruling by enforcing silly and stupid laws and people do not want to obey any laws at all. Does this sound familiar?

This is the start of the population apocalypse.

I'm guessing the Native Americans had similar feelings when the White man did exactly the same thing. So, I guess your right.

J D Unwin did a study in to 6 major civilisations and numerous tribes over 5000 yrs. This includes the fall of Rome. His conclusions have never been successfully refuted - people need to research his works.

Timmy, it's not us you should be telling, but Merkel May Clinton.

tim read a article on him very very interesting

It's not just the immigration - but debt. Rome devalued their currency, time and time again. Just like the daft central banks.

the roman empire failed becaus eit strecthed itself too far over other countries rather than because fo an imigrant problem.

When a country starts to lose its cultural identity and common cohesiveness, it is doomed; and if it then makes itself reliant on the forces that helped cause it to lose those qualities, it is definitely doomed. This is what happened to Rome, and is slowly but surely happening to Europe and Britain. It is a pity that our politicians cannot see it.

Here's how to spot impending doom: Walk into any major town centre. Close your eyes, and turn round three times. Open your eyes.

It's about how much the earth can sustain. There is enough resources for everyone's need but not for everyone's greed

Europe is doomed as Millions and Millions of people will arrive there in the next 10, 20, 30 years from war torn A frica and I will predict that wars will ensue because of these peoples petty squabbling will come with them and what we see in the news now will unfortunately become commonplace in Europe, destroying their culture and way of life.

''the roman empire failed becaus eit strecthed itself too far over other countries rather than because fo an imigrant problem.''It was the debt of fighting wars and because the immigrants didn't integrate and/or respect the Roman culture.

Imagine inviting some of your more dysfunctional neighbours or families into your own home. All having different values, habits, and beliefs. Absolute madness! Merkel has single handedly created an insane situation. Lock your front door and board up your windows to the chaos.

Best comment ever.

the Roman empire ultimately collapsed because it was too big and unmanageable, those 'ruling' the places at the greatest distance from Rome had no genuine allegiance to the empire and therefore began to govern with self-interest (greater personal reward) rather than loyalty (which might be recognised and rewarded by the state)...because of the debt accrued on running and ruling an empire that had overstretched the capacity to run it...and because those at the top became too lazy, self-congratulatory and self-indulgent to notice that they needed to do something about ti.

Yet you live in San Francisco.

Liberal = freedom. Progressive = moving forward. Conservatism = stagnating.

Yeh socialism destroys the motivation to work hard.

Norway is doing very well. Kibbutzes are socialist, no laziness there.

Norway also relies on State owned oil. And has declining manufacturing and agricultural industries. Let me know how socialism works when the free money runs out.

Cultural Marxism = Insanity and self destruction.

Yogi, you are correct. Marxism sound good in theory, that is why the wealthy pay lip service to it, but don't actually practice it.

Swives, I think of 'Progressivism' as being change for change's sake (boo!) and 'Conservatism' as being don't change unnecessarily (hurrah!). I agree with you that collectivism works in a small scale (Kibbutz), as do market forces (small, independent traders in a market town). The problems arise when these two ideas become political philosophies.

Insult to 11th century.

And the crime is that people like Blair knew and exploited open door immigration exactly to effect 'change' to UK for political reasons, as shown in intercepted emails sent by his team,and strangely not used by Cameron in a GE election battle with immigration at its core. Premeditated attempt to reengineer and breakdown European societies by political forces.

Our societies should have collapsed a long time a go then, because up until some 80 years ago or so, many women went to the beach fully dressed.

Get a life Globalcitizen it is 2016

Captian Dan made me laugh.

You missed his point, that women were covered up 100 years ago and therefore civilisation should have collapsed IF THAT IS THE SIGN. Which it isn't.

I don't mind people covering their bodies on the beach or anywhere else, but I object in the strongest possible way to allowing anyone to hide their face in public. The UK needs to follow France and ban all face coverings AND enforce such a ban. If this means certain people won't leave the house, then fine, stay at home, it's your choice. Or if it your husband's choice, then you chose the wrong husband. This is the West, if you don't like our culture then no one is making you stay here.

missed the point yes theirs lots of small signs theirs much larger ones but we often Waite for a big one to get raised but the small ones can be dealt with but when the big one shows all the little sign and the middle one support the big sign then its too late

Please keep them away - we've already got a doozy-of-a-loony-Liberal on Parliament Hill.

What has Canada done to deserve such a fate? Send them to Mexico!

Were they? I'm guessing you're over 70.

Spot on there!!

Europe killed by condoms, true, and now a different flavour,

Hey....it was a good run... I'm happy.

The problem is that it's cheaper for the governments to bring in migrants to increase population than raise children so parents get no support but migrants do.........

/// I second this!

The Roman empire went downhill from from the importation of christianity.

@Chris1492; the phrase "barbarians at the gates" springs more to mind, both for the Western and Eastern Roman Empire - in case you'd forgotten the latter, which was at its greatest extent around 560-600AD. Feel free to put on your blinkers as to what happened in the 7th century; it wasn't Christianity.

True enough albion99. However this is all by design. Our beloved leaders and their bosses have decided they've had enough of democracy; too much hassle, what with all those uppity peasants constantly complaining about their lot etc. No, it's time to return to the age of serfdom, just like we've always had - where our masters rule over us in every way. Our replacements are already at our gates, while our higher-ups are preparing to cull the herd ready for the next 'Spring.' Didn't you hear Poppy Bush announce the plan to the entire world back on Sept 11th, 1990, during his speech to congress?

"a society stuck in a socio-ecological trap where strong reinforcing behaviour and a lack of innovation prevents adaptation." What does that mean? You keep doing something stupid.

What's with all this 'we and you'. I wasn't standing on a Greek shore with my arms wide open, or on a German railway station dishing out goody bags. So a lot more of the 'them and they' please.

Spot on Albion99 but you forgot one thing although you alluded to it by saying we can't afford things economically anymore-money debasement-printing currency to try and keep things afloat and keep our generous, unproductive societies running (which is impossible as they currently run). This is a serious problem and we are headed towards a vast economic collapse that it's the beginning of the end of Western Society as we know it. I advise all people reading this to get educated and to start preparing as this is exceedingly close now...

Don't include me in that. I stand in our local elections for thew party which can not be mentioned on here. Stop Immigration.

Dimension, people don't take this kind of thing seriously, it's too abstract. I have been telling my sons and grandchildren for years, to get educated and learn practical skills. Building engineering etc. When the collapse comes, what use will media studies be to those who will run our broken society ?

There are just too many people. The WHO & the UN, have let humankind down, they should have looked at the number of births that occur each day, years ago, around the world and done something about it. Births increase substantially year by year & no one governing body or country seems concerned enough to put quotas on their population (China tried) I look at humans and liken them to a plague of locusts on the planet moving into new-untouched areas & consuming everything in their path until its exhausted then move on to the next new area expanding ruthlessly until its all gone. If birth rates continue to go unchecked then I feel that in 50 to 100 years the planet will have lost most or all of its virginal rain forest in order just to feed and accommodate this new number of people. This continuous expansion of humans will have a great effect on the number of animals that go extinct, why should humans have the right to bread relentlessly at the expense of the animal kingdom. We're doomed.

You can't produce children when you are saddled with £40,000 student debt, working in a zero hours job and still live at mum's because rents are too high and house prices resemble telephone numbers.

So the outsiders coming are a GOOD thing? What do you mean?

We have had male leaders for ages and see where it got us.

No, it is the majority in the UK and the same kind in the rest of the world that is causing the downfall. Look how unintelligent hordes of the majority are. Watch a few UK versions of the Jeremy Kyle show if you are still in denial. Also, why is it that plenty of these "minorities" (as you put it) are more grammatically correct in their spoken and written English than many of the natives? Stop the denial.

What about minorities who come to this country because they like its way of life and adopt most of it , particularly the best parts of it rather than importing the very things that caused the poverty they wanted to escape from?

You are both right-paying millions of people over the past 40 years to do nothing but breed more unproductive and less educated individuals while bringing in millions from abroad to do the jobs they don't have to do because you are paying them to stay home is one of the main problems here. Note-it would have been okay if the government had only let in people who assimilate well (eg Poles)-but it has let in many from cultures that do not assimilate well at all- all speeding up the decline of Western culture and civilianisation. Add into that (the other main issue) huge deficit spending and waste and you have a group of societies (Most Western ones) on the brink of collapse...

What about the loony right? Seem to go hand in hand.

Easy way to see if society is doomed: someone like Donald Trump is nominated for president.

And if this winter is mild rather than harsh as it ought to be.

Yep, it won't be long now.

Correction. There is now a starbucks in your town

2nd Amendment puts self ahead of society.

Like same sex marriage.

Spot on JSmithy-and due to the fact you have a society with no cohesion or identity-it's very easy for other cultures with a greater sense of identity to take over. Which is what will happen in Europe and then North America unless there is swift change...

He had a huge amount if assistance from Gormless.

Does it? Is that how it works? Wow.

'CLOSE THE BORDERS, SEND THEM ALL HOME, WE MIGHT JUST HAVE A CHANCE' now then, let me see, why would that offend you so much, I wonder?

Very Angry Old Man, most of them ARE home.

Globalcitizen, If they can not even speak ENGLISH then their home is 'NOT' in the UK,

This would not be a sensible thing to do...the country would grind to a halt. Getting our spending under control would be a better thing to do....