Did a Ukrainian fighter jet shoot down MH17? Eye witness accounts claim Boeing 777 may have been targeted by another plane

乌克兰战斗机击落马航?目击者声称看到波音777被飞机击落
Poppy Danby For Mailonline

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Country Boy
So now remove the sanctions from Russia and put them on Ukraine. The whole thing is a plot by the EU/USA to get Ukraine into the EU and NATO and place missiles on the Russian border. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? Well, that was a pretty dumb thing for the Soviet Union to do, pity the westhaven't learnt from that lesson.
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nellakam
It is time that Americans published their satellite photos of that day and event. It is also time for Kiev to publish transcripts of its ATC with the downed plane. Any sensible person would want to know why the plane was diverted from its original flightpath and sent over wa r zone, not to mention that it was also told to decend thousands of feet from its usual cruising altitude. The weather was perfect, so no need to decend.
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yokyokReply tonellakam
and by what reason we are still waiting for the answer on all this? Who tries to make us blind?
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jeems robert
If this was not targeted by either party, it was a terrible mistake, too late now. We will probably never find out the truth ,yet the US and Russia know the truth, these people died needlessly in a war that was not of their making. The EU has to remain neutral in dealing with the Ukraine and Russia, they are not a super power, although the EU commission thinks it is. This is another reason to vote OUT at BREXIT, to step back from the madness of the EU.
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ComfortablynumbReply tojeems robert
So to do nothing, stand aside and let Russia invade, attack and occupy its neighbours because it does not like their decisions is better than collective action? Yeah, that make sense!
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KingfisherBDKKReply tojeems robert
I am not persuaded that Russia is the guilty pary here.Malatsia has lost two aircaft in suspicious circumstances. That is two two many.
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Tom Welsh
How come the BBC has suddenly "discovered" this evidence nearly two years after the destruction of MH17? I distinctly remember, immediately after the disaster, seeing online reports of BBC footage and interviews with locaks who saw the plane crash and found bodies and body parts falling from the sky. Some of the witnesses stated very clearly that there was at least one other aircraft near the airliner immediately before it was shot down. They also stated quite clearly that they had not seen the huge column of smoke that always accompanies the launching of a surface-to-air missile like a BUK. A day or two later, online sources stated that the video clips with the interviews had suddenly disappeared from the BBC's Web site. What can have happened now, to make the BBC publish this information again - especially after it had all been safely forgotten by 99% of the Western public?
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MIkeReply toTom Welsh
Spot on Tom - I remember that too. Funny how that interview disappeared down the "memory hole ;)
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ten33Reply toTom Welsh
In conflict zones, where political capital is important things are seldom reported truthfully
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no one
The evidence is out there but it is not being released because it does not fit the agenda.
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PappaSmurferReply tono one
Exactly like S A and 9/11
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Ptah
The BBC World News were first on the scene to interview the eye witnesses who claimed to have seen the plane shot down by Ukrainian jets. The report was pulled and the propaganda and lies kicked in, but sooner or later the truth will always prevail.
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SophielReply toPtah
I actually watched that clip online. But it soon disappeared.
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Mookins007
Although both sides have reasons to have shot down the jet the most disturbing fact is that the Ukrainians still refuse to release the air traffic tapes and the US refuses to release satellite data. Both sets of data would be instrumental in establishing the truth so refusal to release is very suspicious - and please don't tell me that the US didn't have their satellites targeted at that area.
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EvadingGrid
Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 - shot down by the Ukrainians 4 October 2001. Funny how the media fails to mention the Ukrainian Military has a track record of incompetence. !
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JeremyReply toEvadingGrid
The Siberia Airlines plane was shot down by Russians during a joint Russian-Ukrainian exercise and the then Ukrainian President Kuchma was forced by Russians to admit Ukraine's guilt.
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Assis
Ukrainian are lousy, they tried to blame it on Russia to get the world sympathy and the world have been blind by rushing to make decisions to put sanctions on Russia.
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Mad MikeReply toAssis
My Wife is Ukrainian and even she reckons the Ukrainians did it, Putin had nothing to gain by shooting it down.
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Kendoll
Finally, the truth is starting to come out.
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NikeimizongReply toKendoll
ahahahahah XD good one mate.
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Superlover69
And the Ukranine wants to join (or Joined) the EU! God Helps us ALL!!!
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VonHammerReply toSuperlover69
That's why they allowed the over throwing of its legitimate government and demonized Russia!
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OlegReply toSuperlover69
Well, it was the EU who promoted the idea of integration of Ukraine into EU and who was the sponsor of the putsch along with your older brother USA, wasn't it. Now you guys gonna get what you have paid for.
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KochiReply toSuperlover69
Blame Merkel for encouraging them
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Fractal
Why should we listen to Australia and Julie Bishop....that lying country sent half the worlds search party on a wild goose chase on MH370 going down in the deep south pacific. They are in bed with Washington and the lies.
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Old IronReply toFractal
Both her accusations and those of then-PM Abbott were extraordinary (not to say unforgivably stupid), particularly given that they could not have had any direct, first-hand evidence of anything. However it was NOT they who either proposed, or initiated the South Pacific search. They simply became responsible for it, given that investigators¿ theories suggested the likely target area to be within the region of Australian responsibility.
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PedroReply toFractal
You're a half wit, Fractal.
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ni.onest
Why has our country put sanctions on Russia? Oh it was TOLD to by the unelected EU Presidents so much for our countries democracy which this EU over rules without any vote in our Parliament! This totally mental EU imposed sanctions on Russia without any concrete prove that they had anything to do with shooting down this airline. So when will we hear the truth and as it may have been Ukraine that shot this plane down I doubt that we will ever be told what really happened. For the sake of our countries democracy vote OUT of this mental brain dead unelected EU!
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ComfortablynumbReply toni.onest
The sanctions were placed on Russia for their illegal annexation of Crimea not the shooting down of MH17. Like most Brexiters you don't bother to check facts, just spout rubbish.
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ni.onestReply toni.onest
Comfortablynumb. Did you not know that the people who live in Crimea had a vote and chose to have that part of Ukraine join Russia! Please do not forget that it always used to be part of Russia!
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Davol WhiteReply toni.onest
I like the truth, and one reason I prefer the truth is that I don't have to hammer comment after comment of BS to get my opinion to be popular like the probably paid government troll Comfortablynumb here. I can just point out my truth and be on my way. It's much less exhausting.
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dotmafia
Why doesn't Ukraine or the United States release the flight logs or radar data from that day? The US claimed it had irrefutable evidence, yet they have provided absolutely nothing to back up their claim. It's because they are LYING and the whole world knows it. They cannot prove a thing, except their own guilt at murdering innocent people and blaming others for it.
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I think
I have no idea like many what the truth is but I do know that the West would prefer that it was Russian missiles in the hands of the rebels in the Ukraine that shot down that plane.
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yaridanjo1
There was no BUK missile contrail and an air traffic controller reported two fighter jets in the area.Of course the fighter jets shot down MH 17.
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Big FellowReply toyaridanjo1
pinko loser
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Alistair begReply toyaridanjo1
And your not an obama poodle?
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john marks
Atc records? Voice recordings? John Kerry,we have good satellite inages,were are they? Of course the US And EU sent the plane to be shot down by Kiev.What fools cant see this.q
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Truth hurts
Putin's ratings go up all the time when these lying western leaders are exposed. The NWO is being exposed now.
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Dan78
Russia had nothing to gain from this action, while Ukraine had a lot to gain. Also, why on earth would Russian separatists attack a plane decked out in Russian red, white and blue? It doesn't make sense.
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George Mach
Americans told that they have a proof received by their satellite. Great! We asked them to demonstrate world the proof. The answer was epic - "it`s a secret information"! I don`t care who did it. I just want them to be severely punished for killing 298 innocent people!
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MickeyDrReply toGeorge Mach
They have evidence of the heat flash when a Russia plane exploded from a small internal bomb out of Egypt. In 2001 when the Ukrainians brought down by accident an Air Siberia airline, the US proved to the Russians what happened. There is a ton of evidence out there and the US are hiding it there fore...
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