Did a Ukrainian fighter jet shoot down MH17? Eye witness accounts claim Boeing 777 may have been targeted by another plane

乌克兰战斗机击落马航?目击者声称看到波音777被飞机击落
Poppy Danby For Mailonline

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yogi
We will never know the truth but it would not surprise me at all if America had a part to play in the planes downing.
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mot123
eye witness's on the day said there was a fighter jet in the sky...i tend to believe Russia had nothing to do with bring that plane down...
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caraamoraReply tomot123
since the rebels posted from their official media accounts about shooting down the plane then deleting it when it was reported is was a passenger plane yeah of course! what about the eye witnesses who saw BUK missile launchers in Ukraine rebel held area's.
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Wearefull
CIA behind this
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given up years ago
The USA murdering large numbers of innocent people, just to further their agenda? Who would have thought that!?
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Dave
The Russians have released every scrap of information on this event. The Europeans and Americans have refused to do so. Radar records are key to this.
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George MachReply toDave
Radar records were lost as well as the airport manager.
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daveyh
Since the hateful EU have consistently tried to bring Russia into a war, I will go with what I thought in the first place, yep, a Ukrainian fighter shot it down, with the EU niggling in the background trying it's best to get Russia blamed.
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Mikesmith8828Reply todaveyh
So why did very powerful Russia not facilitate, at once, turnover of wreckage to Accident Investigation Professionals of Netherlands?
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Dave FReply todaveyh
Perhaps Russia didn't turnover the wreckage to Accident Investigation Professionals because they don't trust us?
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LameduckReply todaveyh
Mikesmith & Dave.........the plane crashed in Ukraine not Russia. It is up to Ukrainian authorities to do as you suggest, not Russian ones. This seems to be a fact almost everyone is either ignoring or have forgotten.
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K Sera
There's no question, it has been well known since shortly after the incident. An ATC at Kiev tower tweeted the whole thing live. Motive. Motive. Who had a motive, who stood to gain? The Ukrainian illegal government, that's who. Just like the Syrian chemical weapon attack. The only people who stood to gain were the FSA, yet Kerry and Obama tried to blame Assad. The truth ALWAYS comes out...
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Mick1959Reply toK Sera
Put your tin foil hat on.
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SophielReply toK Sera
K Sera, London, 52 minutes ago.....And he disappeared soon after and his face book and twitter accounts were shut down.
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Alvin
I really pray for a Brexit success. Whatever happens in the Ukraine in the future will then be of little or no interest to the people in the UK.
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mikeviennaReply toAlvin
The UK Gov is one of Kiev's main sponsors so inside or outside of the EU will make no difference there. Not only that, but UKR is a NATO-Russia issue so unless the UK is planning to leave NATO as well then these types of issues will still be of interest. Brexit will have no impact here either way.
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AlvinReply toAlvin
I agree with your reply mikevienna, what you say is true. However my main point is that if the Ukraine is allowed to join the EU, then half of them will be over here. Not a good scenario for the people in the UK at all.
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Not Impressed
Of course it was Ukraine jets that fired on the plane, but hi lets blame Putin says the west and America.
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Rupert81
It's for political reasons the Russians were blamed.
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Mr. Greene
At last the truth comes out!
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John White
Google the headline, "Ukraine's Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recordings With Malaysian Jet", which appeared just after the shootdown. As the BBC reported at the time, "Ukraine's SBU security service has confiscated recordings of conversations between Ukrainian air traffic control officers and the crew of the doomed airliner, a source in Kiev has told Interfax news agency." Confiscated and never publicly released. Why? Because it would incriminate them?
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PopsiqReply toJohn White
Personally, I think so. If those tapes were completely innocent, the staff would have been interviewed on TV rather than being 'sequestered' for questioning by State Security.
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Bluepencil
I always thought Ukraine was involved particularly with a USA backed overthrow of a government.
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martin12345678Reply toBluepencil
Not USA direct but EU backed, especially from evil Germany.
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you_dont_sayReply toBluepencil
It was an EU backed overthrow. Brussels backed those rioting against a democratically elected President. The EU does not .do democracy.
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roman.emperorReply toBluepencil
GERMANY always wanted more space on the east
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CallMeDave
The Americans, the Ukrainians and the Russians know it was the Ukrainian fighter jet which shot down MH17.
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PETERReply toCallMeDave
'Ukranian'? stealth fighter hence no photos
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ComfortablynumbReply toCallMeDave
No the Russians now agree, after being forced to by weight of evidence, that it was a BUK missile. They are now trying to say it was the Ukrainian army, even though all evidence points to their puppet army in the Eastern Ukraine.
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darkcamel
Ukranian special forces seized the ATC recordings from Kiev airport and never released them. They are guilty (along with the CIA who facilitated it) of mass murder.
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pepe999
Very hard to say what really happened but it's definitely not as Ukraine and the US proclaimed right after the crash. There was a presence of a fighter jet in the area that was later denied. The air traffic control diverted the plane into the area without any reason. Not a single US citizen on board, etc. There is also something missing in this case and it's the reason why would the rebels do that. There is nothing to gain in killing innocent people. However, we all know who would kill them in the interest of "national security".
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GottenReply topepe999
Put on your tin foil hat and sit in a cupboard
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pepe999Reply topepe999
From all the information I have got I believe that the plane was down by the rebels. However, they were aiming the fighter jet not the airliner. Since the air traffic control diverted the plane into the area I believe it was a set up and Ukraine should be blamed for this.
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PappaSmurfer
If you remember any previous names for people that comment here. Judge Grinder, Batfink, etc. You all called me a Russian troll when I told you Russia had nothing to do with the downing of that holiday jet. Well looks like the BBC are about to come out and say this exact thing. The American string pullers are the evil behind ALL the worlds ills. Turning US into a vassal state. How B l @ @ d y dare you. Nuland and Bidden nearly kicked off w w 3 in Ukraine and I told you this. Wake up before it is to late for YOU. And if you cant be bothered, look at your children and grandchildren. Then do it for THEM.
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Kim Jong Il
If it really was the Russians or pro Russian Ukrainians then the whole western world would have been shouting from the rooftops and applying more sanctions on Russia. In the current clandestine world Russia is not your enemy.....be careful of the US and the EU.
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LeoReply toKim Jong Il
This coming from North Korea.
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Braeburn
BBC Russia reported people on the ground seeing military aircraft flying in the area at the same time as the shoot down of MH17. This report was later pulled.
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grunpy oldReply toBraeburn
want the truth??? watch RT Today, bbc/sky have been manipulating the facts.
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Stan-Expat
At root, EU meddling is responsible. Russia always wanted a buffer zone, it was no secret, but good ol' EU (andNATO) thought they knew better.
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